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		<title>By: emilyshollow</title>
		<link>http://emilyshollow.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/50-shades-of-are-you-kidding-me-with-this/#comment-569</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha. No fight picked, promise! 

Yes, the smex (it IS a good term) made me squeamish, but I concede that that is all on me. It&#039;t not bad if that sort of stuff is arousing to someone else, not at all. The parts that stood out to be the most, in terms of what I had issues with, were the times Ana was afraid of what Christian would do to her, even if there wasn&#039;t always follow through - and not in terms of the bedroom stuff. Just in terms of, she was afraid of his response. I did feel the same about Edward, too. More and less so - more so because it was for teenage (and younger) girls, less so because it was much more implied. 

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo - read it. To me the difference is that the violence in those books was never written in a way that made it anything less than appalling. But, for the record, I really didn&#039;t enjoy reading that, either. 

I full admit to be very squeamish and sensitive to these themes, though. More so than most people. And I certainly don&#039;t think it&#039;s wrong for people to enjoy these books in the way they&#039;re meant to be enjoyed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha. No fight picked, promise! </p>
<p>Yes, the smex (it IS a good term) made me squeamish, but I concede that that is all on me. It&#8217;t not bad if that sort of stuff is arousing to someone else, not at all. The parts that stood out to be the most, in terms of what I had issues with, were the times Ana was afraid of what Christian would do to her, even if there wasn&#8217;t always follow through &#8211; and not in terms of the bedroom stuff. Just in terms of, she was afraid of his response. I did feel the same about Edward, too. More and less so &#8211; more so because it was for teenage (and younger) girls, less so because it was much more implied. </p>
<p>The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo &#8211; read it. To me the difference is that the violence in those books was never written in a way that made it anything less than appalling. But, for the record, I really didn&#8217;t enjoy reading that, either. </p>
<p>I full admit to be very squeamish and sensitive to these themes, though. More so than most people. And I certainly don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s wrong for people to enjoy these books in the way they&#8217;re meant to be enjoyed.</p>
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		<title>By: marissaburt</title>
		<link>http://emilyshollow.wordpress.com/2012/05/02/50-shades-of-are-you-kidding-me-with-this/#comment-568</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 16:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haha!  Exactly.  I will say she writes the vibe of the NW raininess nearly perfectly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha!  Exactly.  I will say she writes the vibe of the NW raininess nearly perfectly.</p>
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		<title>By: June</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[June]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 13:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re response to the book has caught me off guard! I know many people out there are upset over the controlling/abusive aspects of the book, but I rarely read it that way. I noticed, especially in the first book, the tendencies for me to scream at her to run away, but it faded through the books. Fact is... she stood up to him. Alot ALOT. And I think that&#039;s why she won him over. He always gave her a choice. At least that how I saw it. And maybe because the sex made you feel uncomfortable made the rest of it feel uncomfortable too, more so that it would have had it not been so smexy (love that term, btw). I dunno, would love to talk more about it...

And I think that the books popularity stems from the fact that it has a decent narrative attached to it. NOT from the violence aspect of it if you see it that way. From my understanding, other smut has very little interesting plot points, but this one is an actual story. Based on another very popular story, which by they way also had many many people crying foul over Edward&#039;s controlling/protective/seen as abusive tendencies. So I guess what I think is that just like adults consenting to whatever fun they have in the bedroom/playroom/livingroom, this book is hopefully being read by adults consenting to the fact that it is Fiction. To be read for entertainment.

Incidentally, I&#039;d love to know your thoughts on the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series and why THAT kind of violence against women in literature is OK.

Anyway, not trying to pick a fight. You&#039;re just the first one of my friends who has taken such a strong stance on the book. And it piques my interest :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re response to the book has caught me off guard! I know many people out there are upset over the controlling/abusive aspects of the book, but I rarely read it that way. I noticed, especially in the first book, the tendencies for me to scream at her to run away, but it faded through the books. Fact is&#8230; she stood up to him. Alot ALOT. And I think that&#8217;s why she won him over. He always gave her a choice. At least that how I saw it. And maybe because the sex made you feel uncomfortable made the rest of it feel uncomfortable too, more so that it would have had it not been so smexy (love that term, btw). I dunno, would love to talk more about it&#8230;</p>
<p>And I think that the books popularity stems from the fact that it has a decent narrative attached to it. NOT from the violence aspect of it if you see it that way. From my understanding, other smut has very little interesting plot points, but this one is an actual story. Based on another very popular story, which by they way also had many many people crying foul over Edward&#8217;s controlling/protective/seen as abusive tendencies. So I guess what I think is that just like adults consenting to whatever fun they have in the bedroom/playroom/livingroom, this book is hopefully being read by adults consenting to the fact that it is Fiction. To be read for entertainment.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I&#8217;d love to know your thoughts on the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series and why THAT kind of violence against women in literature is OK.</p>
<p>Anyway, not trying to pick a fight. You&#8217;re just the first one of my friends who has taken such a strong stance on the book. And it piques my interest <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: themisanthropologist</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 01:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been hearing a lot about this book lately, and I admit I was a little bit curious.  I heard it being called &quot;mommy-porn.&quot;  I don&#039;t know if I&#039;m ever going to be curious enough to try it, as I&#039;m not really into these kinds of books.  Though your post convinced me that it&#039;s probably not a novel I would enjoy.

Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been hearing a lot about this book lately, and I admit I was a little bit curious.  I heard it being called &#8220;mommy-porn.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;m ever going to be curious enough to try it, as I&#8217;m not really into these kinds of books.  Though your post convinced me that it&#8217;s probably not a novel I would enjoy.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: emilyshollow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 00:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha! So Twilight - John and I were going on vacation and I read my Airport Book too fast and needed a book for the flight, and picked it up there, off the Best Seller list. Finished it before descent, declared it the worst thing I&#039;d ever read, and ran off to buy the second one on our forty minute layover.  Have since read them all. Twice. And still maintain that they are utter crap. But still...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! So Twilight &#8211; John and I were going on vacation and I read my Airport Book too fast and needed a book for the flight, and picked it up there, off the Best Seller list. Finished it before descent, declared it the worst thing I&#8217;d ever read, and ran off to buy the second one on our forty minute layover.  Have since read them all. Twice. And still maintain that they are utter crap. But still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: emilyshollow</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 00:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read much about it, honestly. Just word of mouth. The one blog post I did read about it was this one: http://mommymelee.com/2012/04/why-the-term-mommy-porn-gives-me-raging-butthurt-an-essay/, which I still really like. 

It made me want to like the books, so I could be all &quot;rah-rah girl power, girls (and moms!) can like sex, too! Even if I don&#039;t want to talk about it because AWKWARD!&quot;

And if the, erm, rough stuff (?) was confined to the consensual sex, then that would have been OK. I mean, not my cup of tea, so to speak, but whatever. But it was the entire effing relationship. Ugh. 

Anyway, yes, creepy. I agree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read much about it, honestly. Just word of mouth. The one blog post I did read about it was this one: <a href="http://mommymelee.com/2012/04/why-the-term-mommy-porn-gives-me-raging-butthurt-an-essay/" rel="nofollow">http://mommymelee.com/2012/04/why-the-term-mommy-porn-gives-me-raging-butthurt-an-essay/</a>, which I still really like. </p>
<p>It made me want to like the books, so I could be all &#8220;rah-rah girl power, girls (and moms!) can like sex, too! Even if I don&#8217;t want to talk about it because AWKWARD!&#8221;</p>
<p>And if the, erm, rough stuff (?) was confined to the consensual sex, then that would have been OK. I mean, not my cup of tea, so to speak, but whatever. But it was the entire effing relationship. Ugh. </p>
<p>Anyway, yes, creepy. I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: marissaburt</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 00:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes to all of this.  It&#039;s disturbing how the seeds of this (the abusive bad-boy love triangle hottie) is also in lots of YA stuff (that take it beyond the squiffy Twilight territory and into idealizing abusive relationships.  I haven&#039;t read 50 shades - my smexy-book tolerance is pretty low - but I&#039;ve followed the hoopla with it and hope that the conversation it provokes will be helpful ground for HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS ARE BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT.  

As a side note, I recently read and loved Between Shades of Grey and recommended it to a friend at church...who misheard and thought the priest&#039;s wife was recommending 50 Shades to her.  haha! Fortunately we&#039;re good enough friends that she checked back in with me.  

P.S. I finally read the Twilight series last week and *embarrassed cough* liked it well enough.  Okay, confession over.  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to all of this.  It&#8217;s disturbing how the seeds of this (the abusive bad-boy love triangle hottie) is also in lots of YA stuff (that take it beyond the squiffy Twilight territory and into idealizing abusive relationships.  I haven&#8217;t read 50 shades &#8211; my smexy-book tolerance is pretty low &#8211; but I&#8217;ve followed the hoopla with it and hope that the conversation it provokes will be helpful ground for HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS ARE BASED ON MUTUAL RESPECT.  </p>
<p>As a side note, I recently read and loved Between Shades of Grey and recommended it to a friend at church&#8230;who misheard and thought the priest&#8217;s wife was recommending 50 Shades to her.  haha! Fortunately we&#8217;re good enough friends that she checked back in with me.  </p>
<p>P.S. I finally read the Twilight series last week and *embarrassed cough* liked it well enough.  Okay, confession over.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 23:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I heard about that - the violence stuff. I&#039;m also curious why this book has gotten SO MUCH attention. Surely it&#039;s not the first book where people touch private parts.

So I think the violence aspect did it. Which is kind of creepy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I heard about that &#8211; the violence stuff. I&#8217;m also curious why this book has gotten SO MUCH attention. Surely it&#8217;s not the first book where people touch private parts.</p>
<p>So I think the violence aspect did it. Which is kind of creepy.</p>
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